"Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager" (Nighthawkwill7)
06/11/2014 at 11:02 • Filed to: Two wheels good
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"Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager" (Nighthawkwill7)
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Wonder how capable this will truly be off-road.
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JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
> Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager
06/11/2014 at 11:05 |
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I shall be watching this.
BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
> Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager
06/11/2014 at 11:22 |
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Even if it is just a Monster or converted Hypermotard framed bike, with long travel suspension and knobbies, it has to be better off road than giant road-bikes posing like dual-sports, such as Multistrada.
Even if they go back to the Sport Classics's frame, or even further back to the SuperSport frame... they could do something like this one.
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1995 Ducati
ARTICLE BY Bikerscafeblog
Super Sport 600 Scrambler by Marco Artizzu
The recipe for a beautiful custom bike by Marco Artizzu:
- Take one 1995 Ducati Super Sport 600
- Take off the fairing and change the wheels from alloys to spoke ones
- Mount the front dual disc brakes and knobby tires
- Paint the gas tank British Competition Green- Paint the rest black and do the custom subframe to hold the custom leather seat
Seems like a pretty easy recipe for Ducati to follow, and they have SEVERAL trellis frames available, for a variety of air-cooled L-twins, (800cc with the same tuning and fuel injection developments of the 1100EVO or Monster 1200 air-cooled engine, would be the sweet spot, imho.)
BMW's R-NineT took pretty much NO time to get converted to a Scrambler, probably before all of the dealer allocations have arrived. (Brooklyn Scrambler by GANT Rugger, pictured)
Scrambler formula is pretty simple. Slightly longer forks and shock for travel and ground clearance, laced wheels, knobby tires, a moderately tall handlebar on risers, high enough exhaust not to scrape, and a simple seat. Minimal weight. Basically the Cafe Racer formula adjusted for off-road.
Although the BMW doesn't really need 1200CCs, the 800-900cc down-sized boxers don't really exist anymore with the DOHC hex-head air/oil-cooled engine. I don't think a Duc scrambler needs 11-1200 air-cooled CCs, either. 750-950ccs somewhere would be fine... and maybe even down into the 600cc range if the bike is light enough.
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JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
> BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
06/11/2014 at 11:29 |
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The current Triumph Scrambler is an excellent example of this... now a Ducati version is something I would really love to see. Though I am more of an "adventure" bike guy. I like the Multistrada a lot, and am currently in love with the Tiger XC... I own a BMW F650GS
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Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager
> BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
06/11/2014 at 11:31 |
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I'm betting this will use the 821cc twin like the Hypermotard. It's probably the lightest engine they make now as I believe the smaller Monster engines are being phased out.
That Ducati looks wicked.
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BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
> Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager
06/11/2014 at 12:10 |
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I hope that is not the case... I am sure the 821-cc Testastretta liquid cooled engine is fine, for a high-powered road-warrior, but it is going to be a maintenance horse, more than a 2-valve air-cooled engines.
I really hope they keep it simpler, air-cooled, and 2-valve. If they could... I wish they could go to a timing chain, rather than a belt, to keep maintenance service to a minimum.
I like 1200cc twins as much as anyone, but I hope they don't eliminate all of the smaller options... Even if they narrow it down to only one smaller option with the 796, and drop the 696 bargain model.
796 base Monster for the road, and Scrambler for on/off road, would be fine. It would also keep the Scrambler well under the larger Multistrada.
I am not sure what the appeal of a gigantic, heavy bike like Multistrada, or R1200GS is off-road... if you dump it out in the middle of nowhere... you are the only one available to try and pick it up again... and the fewer pieces to break means less likelihood of being stranded. I get that they can cross continents... and maybe that would be the bike of choice for that... but just a dual-purpose runabout on and off the road... that is a lot of excess mass, which a scrambler should rightfully do without... which is where bikes like the old R80GS got their start.
A broken radiator or coolant hose, or a damaged water pump basically makes a bike like that useless until it is repaired... or destroys the engine if run without coolant.
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Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager
> BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
06/11/2014 at 13:29 |
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Well Ducati might have developed an air cooled variant of the engine for all we know. We'll just have to wait for an official press release to know the specs.